Italy’s referendum

In case anyone wants to discuss Italy’s constitutional referendum, space is hereby provided…

11 thoughts on “Italy’s referendum

  1. With Renzi threatening to quit if the “No” side prevails, I can’t help but think of another century, another country, another referendum on Senate reform (as well as issues pertaining to the regions), a seemingly unexpected “No” (or rather “Non”)…and one sudden resignation immediately afterwards:


  2. It this considered to be a good reform or not for Italy? Weakening the Senate would make Italy more in line with European norms. The current system where a government has to have the confidence of both chambers is unusual. It seems to me as if this reform could pass as it would decrease the size of the Senate making Italy have far fewer politicians. It has one of the largest upper and lower houses in the world. What would be the cubed root size of Italy’s population to parliament size be?

    Could this had been done without a referendum or is Italy required to have one? Unfortunately other issues are distracting Italy from the merits of this constitutional reform.

    Don’t forgot Austria is having it’s Presidential Election on this day as well. We live in crazy fascinating times with some shocking unexpected election results. A combination of a thriller and a shocker.


    • Not only European norms, but those of parliamentary democracies. I do not think there is another parliamentary system in which the government requires the confidence of two houses (although the ability of the Australian Senate to withhold supply makes it de facto another such case).

      The referendum was required because it is a constitutional amendment, and it did not obtain a sufficient majority in parliament to enter into force without a referendum.


  3. ANSA reports a comparatively high turnout as of noon CET (6 AM EST), especially across northern Italy. Italy’s Interior Ministry has detailed figures here.

    P.S. I had merely intended to furnish a link to the news clip featured on my earlier comment; however, it appears the system will automatically embed linked YT videos. In any event, there’s another longer YT clip from the same publisher showing the ballots used and the reporting of results for that historical event, but it appears to have no sound and I didn’t include it.


    • Voter turnout in Italy’s referendum stood at 57% as of 19:00 CET (1:00 PM EST). Turnout figures remain much higher in northern and central Italy than further south (although turnout in the Lazio region, which includes Rome is fairly close to the national average). That said, the figures appear to be roughly in line with turnout patterns for the general election three years ago.


      • Exit polls on Italy’s referendum point to a clear “No” victory. However, I’d take their findings with caution: in Italy’s last three general elections, their predictions proved to be less than accurate in one way or another.


    • And Renzi’s out, having just resigned over the adverse vote in today’s referendum. Meanwhile, with nearly 60% of the vote tallied, the “No” side has remained consistently ahead by 3:2, with little change in the overall percentages.


  4. If the 5 Star Movement manages to win the Chamber of Deputies in the next general election, but are constantly stymied by a lack of a majority in the Senate, it will be supremely ironic.


  5. Italy needs a different approach to constitutional reform. Firstly, it should be less ambitious and more gradual. Try dealing with the heart of the problem – perfect bicameralism – and nothing/little else by just passing a law removing the Senate’s power to remove a government or reject supply. Secondly. don’t make it a referendum on the prime minister as happened this year and Berlusconi’s attempt in 2006. Just pass it through parliament, and if you have to have a referendum (by not being able to get 2/3 majorities), leave the campaign to more publicly-trusted figures, and certainly don’t promise to resign if it fails.


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